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Average win / Average loss

Average win is the mean result of your winning trades only, average loss the mean of your losers only. These two figures describe the shape of your trading far better than P&L: they say whether you live off a few big hits or a steady accumulation.

What the ratio compares

Average win $450 Average loss $270 450 ÷ 270 = 1.67
The green bar divided by the red bar gives 1.67, your win/loss ratio. But read the red one first: it should be worth your planned risk, $200, and it is worth $270.

Key takeaways

  • Two separate averages: winners on one side, losers on the other, never mixed.
  • Their ratio is the RRR: average win ÷ average loss.
  • The first check: your average loss must stay close to your planned risk.
  • In currency they do not compare from month to month if your position size moved.

1. What is Average win / Average loss?

These two averages are computed on distinct populations, and that is the whole point. Mixing winners and losers into a single average gives expectancy, which answers a different question. Kept apart, the two figures say how your trades end, on each side.

Average loss is the more informative of the two, because it is supposed to be chosen. Your stop determines what you lose: if average loss hugs your planned risk, your stops hold; if it clearly exceeds it, they are widened mid-trade or skipped, and that is the most expensive flaw in the job.

Average win is largely imposed: the market decides the size of the move. What you control is the share of it you take, and that is what exit efficiency measures.

2. The calculation formula

The basic formula

Average win = Σ gains ÷ number of winners · Average loss = |Σ losses| ÷ number of losers

Trades closed exactly at break-even enter neither average.

The calculation runs on the net: an average computed before fees overstates gains and understates losses, twice in the same direction.

These averages are very sensitive to extreme values. Look at the median too: if it sits far below the mean, one trade is carrying everything.

A worked example

  • Planned risk: 1% of a $20,000 account, so $200 per trade.
  • 30 winners totalling $13,500 → average win = $450.
  • 45 losers totalling −$12,150 → average loss = $270.
  • RRR = 450 ÷ 270 = 1.67.
  • But the average loss ($270) exceeds the planned risk ($200) by 35%.

The 1.67 RRR looks fine, and yet the real flaw is elsewhere: the stops do not hold. Bringing the average loss back to $200 would lift the RRR to 2.25 without changing a single entry.

3. What it is used for

Checking that your stops hold

Compare your average loss to your planned risk. In this page's example, $270 against $200 planned: the 35% gap does not come from the market, it comes from stops widened along the way or never placed.

It is the most profitable check in the group, because average loss is the only one of the two averages you truly choose.

Seeing what you leave on the table

Then compare your average win to your average MFE, the best moment your trades reached. An average win far below it signals rushed exits or misplaced targets.

The gap is measured in currency in a journal, and it points directly at what needs work: not entries, exits.

4. Why the generic calculation misleads

The first flaw is reading them in currency across different sizes. Going from one to two contracts doubles both averages without anything having changed in how you trade.

The second is the average pulled by an extreme. A single exceptional winner raises the average win of the whole sample, and the median, much lower, is then the real typical size.

The third is computing before fees. It overstates gains and understates losses, two errors in the same direction, and it flatters the win/loss ratio accordingly.

5. Advantages and limitations

Advantages

  1. They separate the two sides of trading, where P&L and expectancy mix them.
  2. Average loss can be controlled: it says whether your stops hold, which no result statistic says as directly.
  3. They rebuild the rest: their ratio gives RRR, and with win rate, expectancy.

Limitations

  1. An average hides the distribution. A $450 average win can come from thirty trades around $450, or from twenty-nine at $200 and one at $7,700. Those are not the same systems, and the second is not repeatable.
  2. In currency, they do not survive a change of position size. Going from 1 to 2 contracts doubles both averages without any skill having moved: that is why they are read in R as soon as sizing has varied.
  3. They say nothing about frequency. A high average win over three trades a month can earn less than a small average win over a hundred.

The classic mistake. Reading both figures in currency on an account whose position size varies. An average win that rises because you doubled your size is not a method improvement, and it mechanically comes with an average loss that rises just as much.

6. Comparison with related indicators

IndicatorFormulaWhat it measuresWhen to use it
Average win / average lossΣ gains ÷ winners · |Σ losses| ÷ losersThe typical size on each sideChecking stops and targets
RRRaverage win ÷ average lossHow winners weigh against losersJudging the pair with win rate
R-multipleresult ÷ risk takenThe result in units of riskComparing despite different sizes
Exit efficiencygain banked ÷ MFEThe share of the move takenJudging your exits

The differences that matter

  1. These two averages separate what expectancy mixes. Expectancy says what an average trade earns; the averages say how your winners and losers end.
  2. In currency they describe your account; in R they describe your method. Only the second reading survives a change of position size.
  3. Average loss and biggest loss are read together. The first is the norm, the second the exception, and their ratio says whether a stop was blown.

7. How to improve it

1. Compare your average loss to your planned risk

Beyond a 20% gap, a handful of trades with no recorded stop almost always explain everything. Finding them in the journal takes one session, and they are worth more than any new entry.

2. Compare your average win to your average MFE

The gap is money left on the table. If it is wide and steady, set your targets on what your trades actually reach rather than on a round number.

3. Look at the median beside the mean

If the two diverge sharply, a single trade carries the average. The median then describes your typical trading, and that is what needs improving.

8. Frequently asked questions

Should average win be bigger than average loss?

Not necessarily. What matters is the pairing with win rate: an average win below the average loss stays profitable if you win often enough. The threshold is computable, it is 1 ÷ (1 + RRR) applied to your accuracy.

My average loss exceeds my planned risk, what should I do?

Find the trades involved in your journal rather than changing method. In most cases, a handful of trades with no recorded stop explain the whole gap. It is an execution problem, not a strategy one, and it is fixed in one session.

Should I exclude exceptional trades from the calculation?

Do not exclude them, but compute the median alongside. If mean and median diverge sharply, you know the average is describing an accident rather than a behaviour, and that information is the useful one.

How do I improve my average win?

By setting targets on what the market actually offers, measured by the MFE of your past trades, rather than on a round number. Many traders systematically exit at 1R while their winners reach 2.4R on average before turning.

Average win and average loss: gross or net?

On the net, always. Before fees, average win is overstated and average loss understated, and the win/loss ratio comes out flattered twice. On a high-frequency style, the difference is enough to make a losing system look balanced.

9. In Tradoshi

In Tradoshi, Average win and Average loss are computed on the net, fees included, and shown in the Reports screen. The Dashboard offers the Average win / loss chart, which shows both side by side with their ratio.

Both checks on this page happen in the same screen: Average % of capital risked is compared with your average loss, and Average MFE and Money left on the table are compared with your average win. The version in units of risk is Average realized R.

10. In summary

  1. Average win and average loss are two separate averages, winners on one side, losers on the other.
  2. Average loss is compared to your planned risk: a wide gap means your stops are not holding.
  3. They are read in R as soon as your position size has varied, and with their median alongside.

To go deeper on this: read the full guide. Every term is gathered in the glossary.

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